Bearman Cartoon: Missionary Atheists
Our friend Jammer is a frequent contributor over at Prairie Populists and Progressives. A recent post discussed a newer group of atheists who are are “insisting upon aggressively confronting religious ideas, whereas the older group favors working with believers.” I would contend that this “newer” group is actually the older group offshoot of the teachings of Richard Dawkins (not to be confused with Richard Dawson) and the like who equate religion with a form of mental illness.
In fact a USA Today article says that many atheists no longer want to be associated with those beliefs and actually profess that religion and the religious have a place.
The old atheists said there was no God. The so-called “New Atheists” said there was no God, and they were vocally vicious about it. Now, the new “New Atheists” — call it Atheism 3.0 — say there’s still no God, but maybe religion isn’t all that bad.
Tanner Leah wrote one of his tongue-in-cheek posts about one group, The Coalition for Reason, trying to promote the fact that Atheists shouldn’t feel alone by placing ads all over the NY city Subway system. I don’t think there is anything wrong with a group promoting the fact that people with like beliefs (or lack thereof) can come together.
However, you all know I hate bad statistics. The ad says “A Million New Yorkers are Good Without God. Are You?” In a NY Times article discussing the stunt, one of the promoters says they got to the “million” number by citing:
“the American Religious Identification Survey, released earlier this year, as evidence of a shift away from organized religion. Those checking “none” for religion rose from 8 percent of the population in 1990 to 15 percent in 2008, effectively making “no religion” the fastest growing religious identification in the United States.
De Dora said that the “million” New York nonbelievers mentioned in the advertisements is the result of an extrapolation based on the survey’s findings. With more than 8 million residents living in New York’s five boroughs, the organization projects more than a million potential atheist New Yorkers.”
Just because 15% of the population list themselves as having no religion, this DOES NOT equate to them being atheist or in fact not believing in some higher power. In fact looking at the American Religious Identification Survey results, show of the people who wrote “none” as a religion, only 5% of them identified themselves as atheist.
8.3 million New Yorkers x 15% writing “none” x 5% of that group identifying as atheist = 62,250 Atheists in NY City.
In response to my comment on the Prairie Populists that lack of belief in supernatural is still essentially a religion, someone wrote ‘But most atheists aren’t going to bashing on your door on a Saturday morning.” To which I responded, True and neither are most Christians. Personally I don’t mind either’s belief as long as they respect my own.”
But what if the next step in evolution of atheism is to actively recruit new “non-believers”?
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October 22, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Does that book come with anchovies and pepperoni?
October 22, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Psssttt . . . thanks for the plug
October 22, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I try to keep my finger on the pulse of what goes on in the world.
October 22, 2009 at 9:31 pm
I knew you’d work that finger in there some how. Looner will be so proud.
October 22, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I am
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October 22, 2009 at 9:42 pm
bearman arent you afraid we’ll just use you for your toons? interesting post, good toon!
October 23, 2009 at 4:48 am
Aren’t you afraid people just visit your site for sexy monday?
October 22, 2009 at 10:34 pm
“I think I might have a coupon for that book. Just wait here a minute while I go look.” Hour later, “Sorry. Couldn’t find it.”
October 23, 2009 at 4:48 am
I can see you rummaging through your drawers as you make the poor guy wait.
October 22, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Blahaha religious nutters and anti-religious nutters, you just can’t win!
October 23, 2009 at 4:48 am
Then there are those of us who are just plain nutters.
October 23, 2009 at 3:03 am
at the end of the day when we die will all find out. If you did believe in God and there was nothing no big loss but if you didnt believe in God and there is then you are screwed. I choose to go play it safe. but be it from me from letting others take the “thrill ride” and take a chance hehe.
love the cartoon!
October 23, 2009 at 4:49 am
Then again if you die and there is nothing, neither one will no and no one gets to claim victory.
October 23, 2009 at 9:24 am
I am hedging my bet god has sense of humor and will let me in regardless….or I am screwed
October 23, 2009 at 11:21 am
I’ll be sitting at the VIP table. Just give them my name. That is unless you die before me. In which case, hope you like it warm.
October 23, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Sunny side up !
October 23, 2009 at 9:24 am
tongue in cheek…head up ass…it’s all the same.
62,250 is WAY less sexier than 1 million.
October 23, 2009 at 11:20 am
They should have done NY visitors. Maybe that would have driven the number up.
October 23, 2009 at 11:27 am
Nice work, Bearman. I agree.
An artist and a mathematician…I’m impressed!
October 23, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Statistician not mathematician. I can’t do those crazy formulas.
October 23, 2009 at 7:33 pm
“x” sign = multiplication = math
(unfortunately that’s the only thing I remember)
October 23, 2009 at 8:56 pm
omg bearman u iz like trully a geek! hahah
October 23, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I’ve always enjoyed the missionary style of doing things.
October 23, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Somehow I predicted FL would make that comment.
October 23, 2009 at 9:11 pm
I don’t do my job lying down !!!! Well sometimes…ah never mind
October 23, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Sometimes? Well, there was that one time when the Kama . . .
October 23, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Great toon, although I’m sure he woulda preferred the pizza
October 23, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Maybe that is what the people coming door to door should do. Throw in a free pizza to listen.
October 23, 2009 at 5:55 pm
that wouldn’t be a good book. lol
October 24, 2009 at 5:54 am
Well its on bookstore bookshelves now.
October 23, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Yet another reason I stick to material with the ‘mostest’ pictures I can find!
October 24, 2009 at 5:55 am
hmmm….maybe the illustrated non-bible might make some money.
October 24, 2009 at 6:55 pm
$$ (those are my eyes right now)
October 26, 2009 at 12:42 am
Cash in your eyes. Doesn’t that make it hard to see?
October 23, 2009 at 8:55 pm
What about those who wish to convert from religion to atheism? Is there a place for a converted non-believer?
October 23, 2009 at 10:45 pm
I was thinking Taco-Bell myself.
October 24, 2009 at 12:08 am
Drive through Maccas ?
October 24, 2009 at 5:56 am
I am sure as in most religions…converts are welcome
And for the uninformed Maccas = Mickey D’s = McDonalds
October 23, 2009 at 8:57 pm
hey so howlong does it take for Fox to get back to you about ur entry on the simpsons? ive not heard a peep yet either to say “yes” or “i dont think so..”
October 24, 2009 at 5:57 am
I think they are taking entries until next week. Then it usually would be 3 weeks. They aren’t sending out “Thank you for entering” notices.
October 24, 2009 at 6:27 pm
No thank you notes!? it wouldnt take mjore than 5 mins to configure an automated thank you response.. typical americans…
October 26, 2009 at 12:41 am
How do you do that. I will create one for all my comments then. It will save me time reading your dribble about typical americans..haha
October 24, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Really liked the toon..keep up the good work.
October 26, 2009 at 12:41 am
thanks
October 25, 2009 at 12:33 am
I get people knocking on my door on Saturday mornings all the time. I just let the kids turn up their music. That scares anyone away.
October 26, 2009 at 12:43 am
I saw Publishers Clearing House at your place a few weeks with a big check but they got scared off by the loud Marilyn Manson coming from inside.
October 27, 2009 at 12:56 am
damnit!